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and i think it's good for clinton, too. i think not only in legacy terms, but i think if hillary clinton still has an eye cast toward the white house, i think it's much better for her, it would be much easier for her in 2016 if obama is re-elected. >> back to the bushes for a moment. jeb bush. let's see. if mitt romney doesn't win, jeb might go for it. jeb bush was out defending his brother on the campaign trail yesterday. here it is. >> president obama was dealt a tough hand. we were told that. we hear this every day almost if you watch tv. you know, and, of course, it's my brother's fault for everything that goes on. it's almost as though the dog ate my homework is the reason why we're going through tough times. >> what are your thoughts on that, michael? >> well, of course, that's what he's going to say, but the fact of the matter is that the financial crisis that we got into was george bush's fault. it was the republican party's fault. sure you can trace some things back to clinton, the deregulation of glass steagall in
and i think it's good for clinton, too. i think not only in legacy terms, but i think if hillary clinton still has an eye cast toward the white house, i think it's much better for her, it would be much easier for her in 2016 if obama is re-elected. >> back to the bushes for a moment. jeb bush. let's see. if mitt romney doesn't win, jeb might go for it. jeb bush was out defending his brother on the campaign trail yesterday. here it is. >> president obama was dealt a tough hand. we...
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one of these candidates is bill clinton. unfortunately, so is the other. in which direction would john kerry lead? kerry voted for the iraq war. opposed it. supported it. and now opposes it again. john kerry. whichever way the wind blows. chris: funny thing is the guy who made that wind surfing ad that's bush's advisor mark mckinnon worked also for john mccain in 2008. and here's the recycled hand he work for mccain against primary opponent mitt romney. >> mitt romney seems to change positions like the wind. he tells florida he supports the bush tax cuts. but as massachusetts governor romney refused to take a position on the bush tax cuts. where does mitt romney? whichever way the wind blows. chris: and when we come back we've got a perfect storm coming ashore. that could affect things. and we have the big jobs number coming next friday. if it's bad, could it tip the election? plus scoops and predictions right from the notebooks of plus scoops and predictions right from the notebooks of these top chris: welcome back. this friday, we're going to get last un
one of these candidates is bill clinton. unfortunately, so is the other. in which direction would john kerry lead? kerry voted for the iraq war. opposed it. supported it. and now opposes it again. john kerry. whichever way the wind blows. chris: funny thing is the guy who made that wind surfing ad that's bush's advisor mark mckinnon worked also for john mccain in 2008. and here's the recycled hand he work for mccain against primary opponent mitt romney. >> mitt romney seems to change...
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deficit, we've also got to ask the wealthiest americans to go back to tax rates they paid when bill clinton was in office because, as long as i'm president, i will never turn medicare into a voucher to pay for another millionaire's tax cuts. i will never allow the nation to be plunged into another battle over health care reform just so insurance companies can jump back into the driver's seat. and i will never allow politicians in washington to control health care choices that women should be making for themselves. so, wisconsin, we know what change is. we know what the future requires. we don't need a big government agenda or a small government agenda. we need a middle class agenda that rewards hard work and responsibility. we don't need a partisan agenda. we need a common sense agenda that says, when we educate a poor child, we'll a. be better off we need a vision that says we don't just look out for yourself. we look out for one another. we look out for future generations. and we meet those obligations by working together. that's the change we believe in. that's what this election's all.
deficit, we've also got to ask the wealthiest americans to go back to tax rates they paid when bill clinton was in office because, as long as i'm president, i will never turn medicare into a voucher to pay for another millionaire's tax cuts. i will never allow the nation to be plunged into another battle over health care reform just so insurance companies can jump back into the driver's seat. and i will never allow politicians in washington to control health care choices that women should be...
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clinton. >> the polls say it's close and it could come down to what you decide. >> is it newfound confidence or desperation? governor romney and paul ryan go hunting for independents later in pennsylvania. and you came through. ♪ ♪ ♪ take my hand, we'll make it i swear ♪ ♪ living on a prayer >> we learn today that viewers donated nearly $23 million for sandy victims. ♪ under the boardwalk ♪ down by the sea yeah ♪ on a blanket with my baby ♪ is where i'll be >>> good day, i'm andrea mitchell, live at nbc's democracy plaza here in new york where we're going to bring you nonstop coverage of decision 2012. with only two days to go before the election, we have the latest results from the final nbc news/"wall street journal" poll. object the east coast, election officials racing against the clock to get polling locations up and running despite the storm. while storm-ravaged communities are still waiting for power to come on. and debris to be cleared. >>> 30 to 40,000 people here in
clinton. >> the polls say it's close and it could come down to what you decide. >> is it newfound confidence or desperation? governor romney and paul ryan go hunting for independents later in pennsylvania. and you came through. ♪ ♪ ♪ take my hand, we'll make it i swear ♪ ♪ living on a prayer >> we learn today that viewers donated nearly $23 million for sandy victims. ♪ under the boardwalk ♪ down by the sea yeah ♪ on a blanket with my baby ♪ is where i'll be...
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after bill clinton was out of office, they tried their ideas. we tried giving big tax cuts to the wealthiest americans. we tried giving insurance companies and wall street a free rein to do whatever they play. what we got is falling incomes, record deficits, slowest job growth in 50 years and an economic crisis that we're still cleaning our way out of. so -- so we know what works and we know what doesn't. and governor romney now is a very talented salesman. so in this campaign, he is trying as hard as he can to repackage the same old ideas that didn't work and offer them up as change. he is saying he is the candidate of change, lo and behold. now here is the thing, though. we know what change looks like. and what governor romney is offering ain't it. giving more power to the biggest banks, that's not change. another $5 trillion tax cut to the wealthiest americans, that's not change. refusing to answer details about your policies until after the election, that's definitely not change. we've heard that from politicians before. >> again, a glimpse
after bill clinton was out of office, they tried their ideas. we tried giving big tax cuts to the wealthiest americans. we tried giving insurance companies and wall street a free rein to do whatever they play. what we got is falling incomes, record deficits, slowest job growth in 50 years and an economic crisis that we're still cleaning our way out of. so -- so we know what works and we know what doesn't. and governor romney now is a very talented salesman. so in this campaign, he is trying as...
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bill clinton out there campaigning for obama, it can be effective but people expect bill clinton to be campaigning for obama. when it's chris christie suddenly the guy who's the keynote speaker at the republican convention speaking up and vouching for him, that's the kind of thing, people who are wavering back and forth, that registers with them to some extent. >> how are you hanging in personally dealing with the storm? >> i have it a lot better than most people. i used to live in hoboken and the scenes from there, i'm just thinking of the people, my neighbors from hoboken from a few years ago and imagining what they're going through. >> an update on the situation in hoboken, we have new york governor andrew cuomo coming up live in a moment. he never does interviews. i'm really happy he's going to be here. steve kornacki is the co-host of msnbc's "the cycle" at 3:00 p.m. here on msnbc and he writes for salon.com. all right. new york governor andrew cuomo is going to join us. big deal. stay tuned. >>> since the financial industry collapsed and the economic collapse at the end of the ge
bill clinton out there campaigning for obama, it can be effective but people expect bill clinton to be campaigning for obama. when it's chris christie suddenly the guy who's the keynote speaker at the republican convention speaking up and vouching for him, that's the kind of thing, people who are wavering back and forth, that registers with them to some extent. >> how are you hanging in personally dealing with the storm? >> i have it a lot better than most people. i used to live in...
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who don't publicly display affection, emotion, the way bill clinton did. they're not joyous politicians in that sense. like tip o'neill or a bill clinton. they need their wives to humanize them. chris: so well said. john, both sides. >> romney back in the spring when he was run, in the republican primaries and it looked like there was a chance he might lose to santorum, people close to him said he's like -- had peace with that already. and things there could be a deal that didn't go right for him and he is probably -- would be more reconciled to it. the president i think for a bunch of reasons, one, his level of competitiveness, most competitive politician i've ever seen. two, the degree to which he dislikes mitt romney and think that mitt romney is not worthy of the job. and the three that joy was talking about before, the president actually does and he tells people who's close to it and always has he feels the burden of his racial importance and historic significance a lot more than he talks about publicly. and i think he realizes that if he loses there
who don't publicly display affection, emotion, the way bill clinton did. they're not joyous politicians in that sense. like tip o'neill or a bill clinton. they need their wives to humanize them. chris: so well said. john, both sides. >> romney back in the spring when he was run, in the republican primaries and it looked like there was a chance he might lose to santorum, people close to him said he's like -- had peace with that already. and things there could be a deal that didn't go right...
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go back to bill clinton who elevated it to a cabinet-level agency. it got better. george w. bush demoted in to some sub agency within homeland security and look what happens to new orleans. we are seeing before our very eyes a stark difference between mitt romney saying we should privatize everything including fema and barack obama working with even republican governors like chris christie on a federal relief effort. that's a huge talisman for what you believe the proper role of government is in society and i believe this will show that the president's right and people look at this in ohio and swing states. >> not the only very stark difference between the two of them. the latest obviously being sandy and bringing the attention on romney and fema. he was asked yesterday multiple times what he would do with fema. did not answer. but just a short time ago jeb bush commented on local officials responding to disasters versus national or federal response. i'll play that but i want to play something else first. romney on the campaign trail today trying to transition, rachel, from
go back to bill clinton who elevated it to a cabinet-level agency. it got better. george w. bush demoted in to some sub agency within homeland security and look what happens to new orleans. we are seeing before our very eyes a stark difference between mitt romney saying we should privatize everything including fema and barack obama working with even republican governors like chris christie on a federal relief effort. that's a huge talisman for what you believe the proper role of government is...
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into >> cenk: no, no, no. >> yes yes. >> cenk: bill clinton, i get that. trangulation, it isn't washing somecars. when rush limbaugh spoke clinton said, have at it ho ss. >> no, that's how he ran. >> cenk: that's not how he ran. >> i think things as serious as the economy people want someone who looks strong, and that comment does not make him look strong. >> cenk: and he says please, please, please and if you care about the politics, when president obama gets re-elected he's going to go back to giving them everything. i'll wash your car, but you have to leverage. >> and this is about being a candidate, not being a president. i think that's how he's being. >> it's visualization. let's go to this analogy. you're trying to buy a car. we all know that we don't trust car sales men like we don't frustrate politicians. this cars salesman says i'll throw this on and this and this. i think, what is wrong with this? you're doing a lot. this is shady. and it has nothing to do with what they're trying to get done. it doesn't make sense. >> cenk: there are a million p
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i do think the president and secretary clinton made the right decision here and that's to order and pent, objective, investigation and review and that's under way and sometimes these things take time and they don't lend themselves to people's political calendars. i also think the two most important issues here getting lost is what can we do to upgrade embassy security? and that means republicans and democrats should fully fund in the congress and see security and can we go after the groups that killed ambassador chris stevens and his colleagues. i trust president obama is trying to do that. that's where we should be putting our attention, especially this week. >> peter, a final question to you. is it possible we may never know why certain crucial pieces of information known to some people, very early on, were not shared with the american public? that we'll never know when there was a concerted decision and who made it? >> that would be a shame it would be a problem, be a travesty and, i think this is why congress really needs to dig into this. we deserve answers, certainly the families o
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former president bill clinton making five stops, i believe, there as well. so pulling out all the big guns, if you will. yourself included on that list. i'm curious, though, you talk about out west in your home state, this new romney ad. it was an unannounced ad. but basically it starts off -- it's a spanish language ad. it starts off by saying who supports barack obama? and then it goes on to show the niece of fidel castro, mariel lacaslmariela castro and shows hugo chavez when he recently said that he would vote for president obama. the obama campaign said mitt romney continues to play chavez's game, giving him the attention that he thrives on that he doesn't deserve. this ad, sir, is being described as a last-minute push to try to win over latino voters. do you believe it would be effective? >> no, it's not going to be effective because it has no factual basis. that relationship with cuba and venezuela is pretty frosty on human rights grounds, on many other grounds. my sense is that what the romney campaign is doing is that's a direct appeal to latino vot
former president bill clinton making five stops, i believe, there as well. so pulling out all the big guns, if you will. yourself included on that list. i'm curious, though, you talk about out west in your home state, this new romney ad. it was an unannounced ad. but basically it starts off -- it's a spanish language ad. it starts off by saying who supports barack obama? and then it goes on to show the niece of fidel castro, mariel lacaslmariela castro and shows hugo chavez when he recently...
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>> iowa has nostalgia for the obama campaign when he defeated hillary clinton there. of course, he won iowa against john mccain in 2008. polls have always shown president obama up by a couple of points in iowa. that has tightened a little bit but the democrats are feeling confident about iowa, a two- or three-point cushion for the president there. and some of the issues for iowa are different from the rest of the nation. another thing they can point out, they can afford to lose iowa. as long as the president wins nevada and ohio, let iowa go and new hampshire. they're going to continue to hard there but there are a lot more different places where the president can get the 271. >> eliot: it sounds like the president may not be sleeping well, but he's sleeping better than mitt romney if you sum it all up. david shuster, thank you so much. >> you're welcome. >> eliot: i'm heading over to hbo for >> jennifer: i'm jennifer granholm tonight in
>> iowa has nostalgia for the obama campaign when he defeated hillary clinton there. of course, he won iowa against john mccain in 2008. polls have always shown president obama up by a couple of points in iowa. that has tightened a little bit but the democrats are feeling confident about iowa, a two- or three-point cushion for the president there. and some of the issues for iowa are different from the rest of the nation. another thing they can point out, they can afford to lose iowa. as...
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and we know that president clinton had done a good job with fema earlier. so it is a coincidence that whenever we have democrats in charge, we seem to do a pretty good job in fema. when we have a republican in charge, not so much. >> well, i don't know if it is a coincidence or really more of look post-9-11 everybody democrats and republicans alike felt compelled to do something. so what do you do in washington when you feel compelled to do something? you start rearranging the organizational chart. that's what they did. it truly didn't accomplish anything. you had under james a good friend of mine, i think he's a great guy. james lee had -- i don't want to get too far in the weeds but he had really developed this idea that fema was the arms broker. that if fema said we need x y z, the rest of the cabinet knew it and made it happen. but under bush and post-9-11 there was this huge reorganization and it left them in disarray. it is a fact of life. it is not partisan because everything that occurred post-9-11 was done by both republicans and democrats. >> cenk
and we know that president clinton had done a good job with fema earlier. so it is a coincidence that whenever we have democrats in charge, we seem to do a pretty good job in fema. when we have a republican in charge, not so much. >> well, i don't know if it is a coincidence or really more of look post-9-11 everybody democrats and republicans alike felt compelled to do something. so what do you do in washington when you feel compelled to do something? you start rearranging the...
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i think bill clinton would be a significant asset for the president. in may clinton undercut the obama campaign's main argument that mitt romney's business experience does not qualify him to lead the country. >> a man who's been governor and had a sterling business career crosses the qualification threshold. >> reporter: and back in 2007 when hilary and barack obama went head to head. >> i mean, when's the last time we elected a president based on one year of service in the senate before he started running. >> reporter: in early twoit, obama won iowa. >> i'm here and he's not. >> i can't tell who i'm running against sometimes. >> fast forward four years, clinton gave one of the most rousing speeches in support of obama at the convention. >> i want to nominate a man who's cool on the out siside, b who burns for america on the inside. >> reporter: afterward, obama joked about giving the former president a role in his cabinet. somebody tweeted somebody needs to make him secretary of explaining things. although, they didn't use the word things. >>> mitt ro
i think bill clinton would be a significant asset for the president. in may clinton undercut the obama campaign's main argument that mitt romney's business experience does not qualify him to lead the country. >> a man who's been governor and had a sterling business career crosses the qualification threshold. >> reporter: and back in 2007 when hilary and barack obama went head to head. >> i mean, when's the last time we elected a president based on one year of service in the...
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also we're continuing to watch others on the campaign trail, former president bill clinton, soon to be in raleigh, north carolina campaigning on behalf of president barack obama. and right knew president obama is headed to the battle ground state of ohio. he talked to voters there about job growth and how governor romney's ideas won't work. >> but here's the thing, florida. we know what change looks like. what governor romney's offering ain't it. giving more power back to the biggest banks, that's not change. another $5 trillion in tax cuts for the wealthy, that's not change. refusing to answer questions about the details of our policies until after the election, that's definitely not change. >> president obama also told voters that he would fight hard for them and their families. and if you hope the polls will shed some light on who will win? forget about it. cnn editor paul stein hauser is here to do the math for us. paul, what do the national polls look like? >> two days to go, and we have four polls that are nonpartisan and came out since midnight. let's start with the abc news/"wa
also we're continuing to watch others on the campaign trail, former president bill clinton, soon to be in raleigh, north carolina campaigning on behalf of president barack obama. and right knew president obama is headed to the battle ground state of ohio. he talked to voters there about job growth and how governor romney's ideas won't work. >> but here's the thing, florida. we know what change looks like. what governor romney's offering ain't it. giving more power back to the biggest...
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with president bush senior and president clinton. that's what america expects. when they don't see that, they will hold leaders accountable. so these leaders are doing the right thing in this moment and frankly that benefits mitt romney as well in the long run. >> jennifer: it is america. people love to see that. thank you, kiki for joining us inside "the war room." good luck as you make your way through the challenges of d.c. tomorrow. hopefully all will be well. we're about halftime here in "the war room on our two-hour special. coming up, the latest on the fallout from hurricane sandy. we'll go live to the areas that are hardest hit with reports from new jersey and new york city to bring you the very latest right now plus when it is all said and done, fema and the first responders will be among the heroes of this disaster. we're going to once again ask republicans if they want to reiterate their plans to cut funding to both. you're watching "the war room." it is only on current tv.
with president bush senior and president clinton. that's what america expects. when they don't see that, they will hold leaders accountable. so these leaders are doing the right thing in this moment and frankly that benefits mitt romney as well in the long run. >> jennifer: it is america. people love to see that. thank you, kiki for joining us inside "the war room." good luck as you make your way through the challenges of d.c. tomorrow. hopefully all will be well. we're about...
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the bill clinton in minnesota, an astonishing piece of resources. pennsylvania more just to keep it -- to keep the gap there from narrowing. but two places that obama campaign didn't want to be north carolina, certainly a place for the romney campaign, doesn't want to be. they would love to not have to worry about florida. we saw basically a tie there. they'd love to not be worrying about virginia. they're worrying hard about virginia. >> and north carolina too. mike allen, a look at the playbook, one week until election day. mike, thanks so much. >>> and governor chris christie of new jersey joins us straight ahead. a very busy day ahead. >> he was out front and center all day, mixing it up with the atlantic city mayor. >> they're tight. >> we're going to get an update from governor christie just ahead on "morning joe." ♪ one on the left and one on the right ♪ ♪ can't tell them apart, try as you might ♪ ♪ but a wise man once said that the secret to life ♪ ♪ is to find one that don't look the same ♪ ♪ find one that don't look ♪ t
the bill clinton in minnesota, an astonishing piece of resources. pennsylvania more just to keep it -- to keep the gap there from narrowing. but two places that obama campaign didn't want to be north carolina, certainly a place for the romney campaign, doesn't want to be. they would love to not have to worry about florida. we saw basically a tie there. they'd love to not be worrying about virginia. they're worrying hard about virginia. >> and north carolina too. mike allen, a look at the...
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the question is, does the event itself still go on with bill clinton? right now, for instance, they were still going to have clinton and biden events in youngstown this was supposed to be the second stop. there was a virginia stop that was going to be today, but this was sort of odd last night when the president left. and you wondered, well, what's he going to say this morning at this campaign event? you know, is he really going to go off on a romnesia riff? you know, so this doesn't surprise me at all. >> hey, chuck, a lot happening this past weekend. >> yeah. >> i don't even know where to start. the one thing, though, that you and i can probably agree on here is, it's hard to pick up trends. you see an ohio newspaper poll, oh, wait, okay. >> yeah. >> mitt romney is now even with the president. boy, the president's in a lot of trouble. and an hour later, "the washington post"/abc poll, wait, romney's down four. an hour later "the des moines register" decides they're going to endorse a republican since nixon. a minnesota poll that shows romney within th
the question is, does the event itself still go on with bill clinton? right now, for instance, they were still going to have clinton and biden events in youngstown this was supposed to be the second stop. there was a virginia stop that was going to be today, but this was sort of odd last night when the president left. and you wondered, well, what's he going to say this morning at this campaign event? you know, is he really going to go off on a romnesia riff? you know, so this doesn't surprise...
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have been identified to be roaming around benghazi and that they told the state department secretary clinton august 16 if there is a coordinated al-qaeda attack the consulate will be overrun. that is what we know before the attack. during the attack we know that 7-8 hours goes by and not one military person was able to help these poor people for over 7 hours on september 11. after the attack they blamed it on a video, a mob and riot that never existed. the president has been awol when it comes to benghazi. they have been denying and deceiving the public. >> greta: it is absolutely extraordinary because you said that he was going to get us answers. and i'm not suggesting -- >> yeah, right. >> greta: and i'm not suggesting that the fbi interrogation be made public but makes a lot more sense to get him in a time close to the event rather than waiting three years or three months or whatever. and it is -- i mean it is extraordinary that we would not have wanted to get in there quicker or even in the fbi or the fbi director i'm surprised he didn't hound the president. want to find out what happene
have been identified to be roaming around benghazi and that they told the state department secretary clinton august 16 if there is a coordinated al-qaeda attack the consulate will be overrun. that is what we know before the attack. during the attack we know that 7-8 hours goes by and not one military person was able to help these poor people for over 7 hours on september 11. after the attack they blamed it on a video, a mob and riot that never existed. the president has been awol when it comes...
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the president's surrogate, bill clinton is on his way there as well. >> essentially what president obama is saying, look at me, i work with the republicans, i worked with governor christie in new jersey. >> he promised bipartisan saying he will pass what he called the down payment on fiscal sanity act which will cut nondefense spending by 5%. president obama says he has forgotten his mandate to become a post partisan leader. >> we asked them, and you, to look beyond the speeches, the attacks, and the ads, look to the record. >> romney is trying to pull out all of the stops before the election after kidrock played at his last event, and now he heads back east again for the final three days before the voter goes to the polls. wolf and kate? >> we also have new poll numbers from the critical battleground state of ohio. take a look at this, president obama has a narrow lead in this state, 50% to romney's 47%, that's within the sampling error making it essentially a dead heat. we have our political analysts here to join in. what stands out to you, gloria, from this latest poll? >> i was looki
the president's surrogate, bill clinton is on his way there as well. >> essentially what president obama is saying, look at me, i work with the republicans, i worked with governor christie in new jersey. >> he promised bipartisan saying he will pass what he called the down payment on fiscal sanity act which will cut nondefense spending by 5%. president obama says he has forgotten his mandate to become a post partisan leader. >> we asked them, and you, to look beyond the...
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and then bill clinton campaigning for president obama and how is it going to work? we'll have the numbers in ohio for you which are critical to the election. >> let's give the job to the man who has done the job so he can finish the job. >> cenk: yeah, 50/50. not so much. all right later in the program you'll enjoy this. a he will elbow on the head. what for? awesome the one time it's okay for you to miss my show is if that's the only time you can get to a polling place. make sure that voting is your highest priority on election day. besides, you can always dvr my show. you really cant' dvr the future of the country. to help you make informed decisions, watch current tv's politically direct lineup. only on current tv. so vote and vote smart. enttv ♪ omney's oldest son and his fundraiser, and they're a little connected to him. i can show you more connections. mitt romney put $10 million in seed money it, and he was their featured speaker meaning he told all of his friends and connected folks don't worry these are my guys. go ahead and invest with them and giving st
and then bill clinton campaigning for president obama and how is it going to work? we'll have the numbers in ohio for you which are critical to the election. >> let's give the job to the man who has done the job so he can finish the job. >> cenk: yeah, 50/50. not so much. all right later in the program you'll enjoy this. a he will elbow on the head. what for? awesome the one time it's okay for you to miss my show is if that's the only time you can get to a polling place. make sure...
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and we know that president clinton had done a good job with fema earlier. so it is a coincidence that whenever we have democrats in charge, we seem to do a pretty good job in fema. when we have a republican in charge, not so much. >> well, i don't know if it is a coincidence or really more of look post-9-11 everybody democrats and republicans alike felt compelled to do something. so what do you do in washington when you feel compelled to do something? you start rearranging the organizational chart. that's what they did. it truly didn't accomplish anything. you had under james a good friend of mine, i think he's a great guy. james lee had -- i don't want to get too far in the weeds but he had really developed this idea that fema was the arms broker. that if fema said we need x y z, the rest of the cabinet knew it and made it happen. but under bush and post-9-11 there was this huge reorganization and it left them in disarray. it is a fact of life. it is not partisan because everything that occurred post-9-11 was done by both republicans and democrats. >> cenk
and we know that president clinton had done a good job with fema earlier. so it is a coincidence that whenever we have democrats in charge, we seem to do a pretty good job in fema. when we have a republican in charge, not so much. >> well, i don't know if it is a coincidence or really more of look post-9-11 everybody democrats and republicans alike felt compelled to do something. so what do you do in washington when you feel compelled to do something? you start rearranging the...